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	<title>Comments on: The Obama Upset</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://microscopiq.com/2008/02/obama-upset/comment-page-1/#comment-30852</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, unfortunately it doesn&#039;t sound like Fairey has the greatest attitude. (It bums me out particularly because one of my favorite galleries just hosted a &lt;a href=&quot;http://jonathanlevinegallery.com/?method=Artist.ArtistDetail&amp;ArtistID=F65EBB86-3048-28EB-92D55AA4FC996E31&amp;GalleryID=82C33C59-3048-28EB-92DB386C8C733405&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;huge Fairey show&lt;/a&gt;.) I mean the best known artists are also great at self promotion but there&#039;s a point at which it becomes obnoxious. You&#039;re right, Banksy does seem a bit more on the level about things. Sometimes he even seems to parody himself.

P.S.: Fixed your tag. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t sound like Fairey has the greatest attitude. (It bums me out particularly because one of my favorite galleries just hosted a <a href="http://jonathanlevinegallery.com/?method=Artist.ArtistDetail&amp;ArtistID=F65EBB86-3048-28EB-92D55AA4FC996E31&amp;GalleryID=82C33C59-3048-28EB-92DB386C8C733405" rel="nofollow">huge Fairey show</a>.) I mean the best known artists are also great at self promotion but there&#8217;s a point at which it becomes obnoxious. You&#8217;re right, Banksy does seem a bit more on the level about things. Sometimes he even seems to parody himself.</p>
<p>P.S.: Fixed your tag. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: David Simon</title>
		<link>http://microscopiq.com/2008/02/obama-upset/comment-page-1/#comment-30804</link>
		<dc:creator>David Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah, didn&#039;t close my end tag properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah, didn&#8217;t close my end tag properly.</p>
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		<title>By: David Simon</title>
		<link>http://microscopiq.com/2008/02/obama-upset/comment-page-1/#comment-30803</link>
		<dc:creator>David Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s a good line to draw; being counter-culture is one thing, but that defense no longer works once the artist stops fighting the Man and starts becoming him (complete with trademarked t-shirt line!)

The thing is, I like Fairey&#039;s style. In particular, I &lt;b&gt;really like&lt;/b&gt; that Obama poster. By itself, it&#039;s defensible as something that doesn&#039;t have to be explicitly credited. Obama&#039;s a recognizable figure, and it&#039;s not as though Fairey&#039;s trying to hide the fact that he just traced a photo. Same applies, at least to some degree, to his use of the Angela Davis photo, and a couple others...

But, in the context of the &quot;oops, you got me, my bad, ever so sorry, won&#039;t happen again wink wink&quot; stuff Fairey pulls over and over... It rubs me the wrong way. I don&#039;t want to support Fairey even when he&#039;s in turn supporting someone I support.

Thanks for the link to the stuff about Banksy. He&#039;s in kind of a similar situation, but to me it seems like he&#039;s handling it with a lot more grace than Fairey. Although he&#039;s suddenly raking in the dough, his appropriations still seem to be totally on-the-level (either so mainstream as to be obvious, or directly attributed, i.e. with the middle-finger guy being on the original painting itself).

Bonus points for doing tribute pieces to his critics (Ozone&#039;s Angel, thanks Wikipedia). More bonus points for not trying to sell t-shirts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s a good line to draw; being counter-culture is one thing, but that defense no longer works once the artist stops fighting the Man and starts becoming him (complete with trademarked t-shirt line!)</p>
<p>The thing is, I like Fairey&#8217;s style. In particular, I <b>really like</b> that Obama poster. By itself, it&#8217;s defensible as something that doesn&#8217;t have to be explicitly credited. Obama&#8217;s a recognizable figure, and it&#8217;s not as though Fairey&#8217;s trying to hide the fact that he just traced a photo. Same applies, at least to some degree, to his use of the Angela Davis photo, and a couple others&#8230;</p>
<p>But, in the context of the &#8220;oops, you got me, my bad, ever so sorry, won&#8217;t happen again wink wink&#8221; stuff Fairey pulls over and over&#8230; It rubs me the wrong way. I don&#8217;t want to support Fairey even when he&#8217;s in turn supporting someone I support.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the stuff about Banksy. He&#8217;s in kind of a similar situation, but to me it seems like he&#8217;s handling it with a lot more grace than Fairey. Although he&#8217;s suddenly raking in the dough, his appropriations still seem to be totally on-the-level (either so mainstream as to be obvious, or directly attributed, i.e. with the middle-finger guy being on the original painting itself).</p>
<p>Bonus points for doing tribute pieces to his critics (Ozone&#8217;s Angel, thanks Wikipedia). More bonus points for not trying to sell t-shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://microscopiq.com/2008/02/obama-upset/comment-page-1/#comment-30392</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article, David. I had seen it in passing before but I must admit I didn&#039;t read it in detail until now. I particularly appreciate the discussion of how Fairey is different from Warhol and Lichtenstein. I suppose Fairey really is testing the line between an artist&#039;s right to appropriate and full-on theft. Perhaps part of it comes from his early work as a graffiti artist -- appropriating imagery from others and turning it on its head. But when you start making money on that work things change. I imagine this will only become more of an issue as graffiti becomes ever more mainstream (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/artview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10122228&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Banksy&#039;s big sales&lt;/a&gt;). As for Fairey, I&#039;d love to hear him respond to Mark&#039;s critique or, at the very least, do a better job of giving credit to his sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, David. I had seen it in passing before but I must admit I didn&#8217;t read it in detail until now. I particularly appreciate the discussion of how Fairey is different from Warhol and Lichtenstein. I suppose Fairey really is testing the line between an artist&#8217;s right to appropriate and full-on theft. Perhaps part of it comes from his early work as a graffiti artist &#8212; appropriating imagery from others and turning it on its head. But when you start making money on that work things change. I imagine this will only become more of an issue as graffiti becomes ever more mainstream (see <a href="http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/artview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10122228" rel="nofollow">Banksy&#8217;s big sales</a>). As for Fairey, I&#8217;d love to hear him respond to Mark&#8217;s critique or, at the very least, do a better job of giving credit to his sources.</p>
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		<title>By: David Simon</title>
		<link>http://microscopiq.com/2008/02/obama-upset/comment-page-1/#comment-30279</link>
		<dc:creator>David Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen some pretty thorough criticisms of Shephard Fairey as a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;plagarist&lt;/a&gt;. Are you sure you want to be spreading his name and work around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen some pretty thorough criticisms of Shephard Fairey as a <a href="http://www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm" rel="nofollow">plagarist</a>. Are you sure you want to be spreading his name and work around?</p>
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